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Transcript of Developer Meeting in Discord - April 12, 2019

Tron04/12/2019
Hello everyone.
It's been a good couple of weeks for Ravencoin.
Sorry I missed the last session. I was on vacation.
Jeremy is looking at channel settings. Can anyone else chat?
RavencoinDev (Jesse/Wolfsokta)04/12/2019
Hello Everybody!
Under04/12/2019
Hey Tron! Hey Jesse!
RavencoinDev (Jesse/Wolfsokta)04/12/2019
Hey Under. Thanks for joining us.
Tron04/12/2019
Ok, still locked. Working on it.
Who knows how to open the channel?
Under04/12/2019
@traysi ★★★★★
RavencoinDev (Jesse/Wolfsokta)04/12/2019
Maybe we start with just you running the show Tron? You can translate the blond frog speak...
Tron04/12/2019
We can all chat, but it isn't a community chat. It would just be a speech.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs04/12/2019
Seems as though, they thought that the @Core Developer open open the channel, but we can't :frowning:
RavencoinDev (Jesse/Wolfsokta)04/12/2019
Ah, I see.
Tron04/12/2019
Ok, the [pot leaf] means you agree, and the [mushroom] means you disagree. GO!
This is the best.
Much less dissent. :smiley:
Ok, we thought we had the ability to open the channel, but it doesn't seem to be the case. To "thenest"!
traysi ★★★★★04/12/2019
Channel should be open now
bitspill04/12/2019
woot
Hans_Schmidt04/12/2019
Hallo! Now it's unlocked. This is always the problem with tight security - it can backfire.
𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖔𝖓 𝕳𝖆𝖗𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖔 CEO ∞04/12/2019
thanks @traysi ★★★★★
Under04/12/2019
Thanks guys
[Master] Roshii04/12/2019
it is
Vincent04/12/2019
:nerd:
traysi ★★★★★04/12/2019
I updated Core Developer permissions to manage this channel. Should work in the future.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
Tron Bruce had mentioned wanting Restricted Assets as a wallet control instead of being on chain. Thoughts?
Tron04/12/2019
>> Tron Bruce had mentioned wanting Restricted Assets as a wallet control instead of being on chain. Thoughts?
I'm not 100% sure what that means.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
Also, seems to me from just being around here pretty much all day everyday that the community support to have only the original asset holder being the only one ever to issue a restricted asset of the same name is basically 99% universal
Tron04/12/2019
Lots of stuff can be done on the 2nd layer, but not restricting peer to peer trades for those holding their own keys. That's the main reason for Tags and Restricted Assets.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
Basically Bruce wants to keep restricted asset issuance capabilities at the wallet level
I'm seeing a big security issue with going that route
Chill04/12/2019
I don't want to put words into Bruce's mouth, but that is my understanding as well
Tron04/12/2019
Explain "wallet level" Wallet is a container for private keys in my vernacular.
𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖔𝖓 𝕳𝖆𝖗𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖔 CEO ∞04/12/2019
brb, googling vernacular
Tron04/12/2019
:smiley:
𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖔𝖓 𝕳𝖆𝖗𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖔 CEO ∞04/12/2019
learn something new every day
Chill04/12/2019
from verna, meaning house slave. That's you, CEO!
Tron04/12/2019
Sorry, in bitcoin terminology.
bhorn04/12/2019
https://twitter.com/brucefenton/status/1116482635314999296
Bruce Fenton (@brucefenton)
Wallet level controls for securities might offer the best of both worlds: decentralized protocols with the ability for issuers to program and control their digital assets based on whatever rules they choose.
Twitter
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
@Tron Sorry, I wouldn't fully know exactly what Bruce was thinking when he mentioned this to the community, might not be a bad idea to get in touch with him at some point
That ^^^
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
it will need to be somehow baked into the chain, though. No?
otherwise wallet code circumventing it could be conceived
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
If any of the committing devs have topics or updates they'd like to bring up, shooot
Tron04/12/2019
Ah, ok. I think that means that issuers can control issuance with their keys and determine whether the recipient is Reg D, Reg S, Accredited, etc. That wouldn't be an on-chain function, and might need to be done first. Only later when secondary trading is approved/allowed/enabled/etc then the Restricted Asset idea is important for those that want to hold their keys/assets.
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
When better privacy... And how?
Tron04/12/2019
None of this matters if it is held by a regulated custodian.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
@Tron Yeah, seems to me from a security standpoint, that would be a bad idea
Tron04/12/2019
No PII (Personally Identifiable Information) should go on-chain.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
so even wallet side things that Bruce mentions rely on the chain having tagged and restricted assets
correct?
Tron04/12/2019
But, in the US, the laws are such for Securities that KYC has to be done for issuance for sure, and likely for trading in a centralized exchange or ATS.
The idea behind tags and assets is to restrict assets to addresses that are tagged. The chain is completely unaware of any other rules. It is just a tool set.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
understood
Synicide04/12/2019
@Tron has there been any further thought/discussions about the hot topic from the previous dev meeting of uniqueness between regular assets and restricted assets? Last meeting ideas were tossed around for a grace peroid, or sharing unique names.
Under04/12/2019
KYC Isn’t a requirement for lottery. Do you think blending in that use case hurts or helps Ravencoin legitimacy? Could the activity of unregulated securities trading, slowly become the norm much as in the same way pot is becoming legalized? How do we by code accommodate existing systems without giving up on the goal of changing the way fundamentallly people participate in the equity market?
Tron04/12/2019
We've talked about it, but no decisions yet.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
Lastly, was thinking the dev meeting time is probably not the ideal place for community randoms like myself to voice our thoughts about non-technical specifics like we're discussing currently. Before the hard fork would it be a good idea to kinda have an open mic online forum where the devs and community can get together and talk about some of the governance type issues?
Hans_Schmidt04/12/2019
Is the current plan still to include both messaging and restricted assets in the next release/fork? GUI included or only consensus/rpc level?
Tron04/12/2019
In general, we feel that XYZ is different than $XYZ. There is some additional on-chain burden like holding the rule-set for the restricted asset.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
Could making the !Ownership token reissueable as $Ownership, Be viable? Keeping asset names unique for their owners?
Tron04/12/2019
Tags have to be held by wallets, so there should be a cost to tagging.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs04/12/2019
@Hans_Schmidt We are going to try and release them on mainnet at the same time.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
Asset names being unique on chain, no matter the type, would be ideal.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs04/12/2019
Not sure about the GUI though.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org Yes I feel therr may be a disconnect on this issue between the community and the dev team regarding what u say
Chill04/12/2019
I have yet to interact with anyone here who is in favor of overlapping names, to be honest
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
yep
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
No overlaps
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
"Token names are guaranteed unique."
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
Which is why I've kinda suggested maybe a round table on this issue before we try to push the code through
Tron04/12/2019
Do you think that sentiment would hold with the wider community?
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
It does in my experience
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
I've seen nobody who prefers the grace period idea
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
We need to properly survey all channels
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
We can do a discord vote
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
needs to be wider than discord
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
Discord is not enough, discord is not the community.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
For sure
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
Yeah not by a long shot
Synicide04/12/2019
I would at least like to hear an argument on why they shouldnt be. There have been several arguments on why they should be.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
twitter, telegram, etc
pool operators
Hans_Schmidt04/12/2019
It could cost a fee to make an asset restricted, and still only the original owner could do it. Issue first, then restrict.
Chill04/12/2019
That's what I was going to say. I have yet to hear an argument that explains why the names should be overlapped
Tron04/12/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org I agree. If there's a way to survey the wider community, I think we should go with it.
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
Well, i guess you can try to push it, let the miners decide
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
The owner of !ASSET ought to have enduring, sole right to create $ASSET
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
If anyone has the position that they can be made non unique by a seprate $ownership issuance, Please pm me and we can have a discussion on my youtube stream.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
@Tron once the voting layer has been activated, this will all be so much easier :yum:
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
assuming an official vote token is produced
But that would be kind of centralized
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
Nothing is official of course
Vincent04/12/2019
the needs to be a logical explanation on how it will be better for the coin to have them not connected
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
I normally never speak in development-meetings. But I agree with @S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org's opinion. >>Asset names being unique on chain, no matter the type, would be ideal.<<
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
But it's better than having nothing for the devs to rely upon when deciding how the code is gonna be pushed out
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
And no I don't own any asset :)
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
Assets being not unique = Fraud and confusion
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
It would in fact be in my personal benefit if it isn't going to be that way, to squat important names.
Synicide04/12/2019
There have been many potential issues/confusion brought up with them not being unique. But no one understands the counter argument
Tron04/12/2019
I don't have a dog in the hunt. If it is better for the project for $BCD and BCD to be treated as the same -- even though they're different textually and different types of tokens, then I'm ok with that. What I don't want, is to make a decision that has lasting repercussions for the project based on the voices of a few that may have a vested interest because they secured good names.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs04/12/2019
Don't worry, Tron is typing :smiley:
Vincent04/12/2019
**jeopardy theme song*
Tron04/12/2019
That's why I mention the "wider" community.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
Absolutely the route to take, gathering the opinions of the greater community.
Vincent04/12/2019
can u give one good counter argument ?
kott04/12/2019
so no counter argument ?!
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
Agreed and this should only be the start of this conversation
bhorn04/12/2019
>>from Tron: they're different textually and different types of tokens
sounds like a counter
Vincent04/12/2019
the only one i can think of is a new life on name squating which in no way helps the project
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
I only bring this up because it seems 99% here prefer forever instead of a grace period. Makes me think it's worthy of discussing to the wider community
Tron04/12/2019
For sure grace period.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
There no argument that it merits discussion
Chill04/12/2019
any company will be forced to buy the !asset and $asset anyway
Vincent04/12/2019
seems like a brexit vote.... revote until the correct vote is recieved
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
@Tron I agree, if this is going to have lasting repercussions for the project, and will only benefit a few, they should be separated. But then we should asses what the implications would be of doing it or not doing it. Are those known?
bhorn04/12/2019
as a non-developer, it would be confusing to me if ASSETNAME and $ASSETNAME were not related
Tron04/12/2019
If the wider community is for the non-restricted asset having precedent forever to get the token, then its easy to do.
bhorn04/12/2019
hearing about name uniquness, but then those two not being unique, seems like a contradiction
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
I am all for what is best for the blockchain implementations that will come in the future.
Tron04/12/2019
@bhorn But we can't enforce that. Only at first. $ASSETNAME could be sent to someone else.
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
They are unique because they are different asset types.
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
Literally you garentee unique names, then you say nvm... It's like saying this crypto u made is capped at 2000 coins then you say nvm its 1000000
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
From a code perspective its still unique.
bhorn04/12/2019
but the unique names is for the user
being able to trust the name
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
I'd also add, one of the selling points of RVN over ERC-20 is the ability to only have one unique name ever
bhorn04/12/2019
if you open up the $ASSETNAME to the non-original owner, now someone new can squat it
Vincent04/12/2019
so there really hasn't been a good point yet
bhorn04/12/2019
and it is no longer uniquely owned by the original issuer
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
Statt getting into same name separate asset things and that starts to get confusing
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
they are de facto unique
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
I think it would be good to have an overview of the benefits and downsides of both ways of implementation.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
@IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK I think you miscomprehend
Vincent04/12/2019
thats not a good argument
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
Rn we're all kawwing into nothing.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
Giving the !Ownership token the power to reissue as $Ownership would make our Ownership tokens more valuable, overall.
Tron04/12/2019
What if the system required purchase of the non-restricted asset first. If you want $GOOGLE, buy GOOGLE first.
Chill04/12/2019
superb
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
Yep
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
ohhhhh
NIce Tron
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
Yes, you must own !Ownership
Vincent04/12/2019
agree and will go back to building apple in ur garage yrs before needing restrictes asset
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
that's what i've been saying
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
Yessir
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
The owner of !ASSET ought to have enduring, sole right to create $ASSET
whosoever owns it
may then create the $ASSET
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
U got the ownership token, u got the name
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
As soon as tron says it everyone agrees... Lol
Vincent04/12/2019
yes, we all agree to that i believe
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
That's what a lot of us were saying I think
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
I really would dislike it if it would have negative implications for rvn and that few moneyminds will benefit from it.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs04/12/2019
i think that could work. So GOOGLE! issues -> $GOOGLE?
Chill04/12/2019
perfect
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
I think some of us were phrasing it differently or conceiving of it differently because some of us are thinking from a user perspective and some are thinking from a developer perspective
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Exactly
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs More specifically, !Google issues > $Google
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
yeah exactly
Chill04/12/2019
Then, if there is some sort of new token that is needed in the future, GOOGLE has already secured the rights to create that one as well
Tron04/12/2019
The exclamation mark is at the end.
Hans_Schmidt04/12/2019
That's exactly what I proposed earlier. Create or buy owner first. Then restrict for another fee.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
I always mess that up. putting the ! at the beginning
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
I know for a matter of fact multiple people own many assets in here. I want to remain neutral here. But you guys speak for your own interest, not for the project.
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
How much should restricted fee be?
Tron04/12/2019
Oh no, the price discussion. :wink:
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
gotta go!
run tron!
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
@Hardman (CEO - dipshit) a community coin takes into consideration everyone's interest
theking04/12/2019
@Tron that makes a lot of sense. Buy the non restricted first and only when you own that can you purchase or create a restricted.
Vincent04/12/2019
i disagree @Hardman (CEO - dipshit) there hasnt been a good counter argument
Synicide04/12/2019
sounds like a great solution, and fixes the !UNIQUE + $UNIQUE <> UNIQUE issue many have
Tron04/12/2019
I'm becoming convinced on the asset name thing.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs04/12/2019
How much do you think is should cost to make a restricted asset guys/girls?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
I was thinking 750-1000
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
500RVN
Gintonic (sold Honda)04/12/2019
Same as unique - 500
RavenLord 🐦04/12/2019
500
Vincent04/12/2019
i dont like the fixed cost discussion (old fight)
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
Or maybe if u already own the !asset, just add another 250-500 to get it created
Synicide04/12/2019
It needs to cost enough to where only people that need that functionality buy it IMO
Chill04/12/2019
Since we do not know whether any future types of tokens will be needed (as the future is not set yet), giving one name control over that name in all current assets and future types of assets is a logical solution. It's a future-proof solution
Hans_Schmidt04/12/2019
same as create new main asset
RigbyMiner04/12/2019
restricted asset should cost 3-5 times that of a regular asset.
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
Then, if it costs money, why would YOU only be able to register it?
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
100 for sub. 500 for main. 2500 for restricted?
5x 5x?
Tron04/12/2019
(750+250+500+5000+500) / 5
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
IMO restricted assets add extra user tools to the OG assets so they should cost more than 500 to create
Chill04/12/2019
The cost for the restricted token should be only commensurate with the cost to the network imo
Vincent04/12/2019
when the coin is accepted by the masses, there will be plenty of burning
no need for inflated (imo)
nobody is gonna issue restricted, just because
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
Plus I think the difference in cost should also promote usage of the OG asset when a user doesn't need the added functionality of a restricted asset
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
if you think about it a restricted already costs more than a main, because it includes having already paid for the main
Hans_Schmidt04/12/2019
Before we run out of time- What is the current eta for restricted/messaging mainnet release - How much time to security debug? Are there plans for another bug bounty program?
Jeroz04/12/2019
What if I want only my guild members or game buyers to trade my coins or items or dragon kill points. Why should I pay more for an asset then?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
I'd like to thank everyone for attending the #governance-meeting today :joy::joy::joy:
Gintonic (sold Honda)04/12/2019
Unpopular thought: Could we let the devs to discuss about other issues?
Tron04/12/2019
We are going to have another wallet for Android that does BIP44 and handles assets. There will be a classic RVN only wallet, and an asset-aware wallet that is seed-compatible with iOS wallet.
Coming soon. Testing it in the next few hours.
traysi ★★★★★04/12/2019
The last wallet was not released as open source. Will the next one be?
Vincent04/12/2019
wen wallet for my windows phone???
Jeroz04/12/2019
Quick before the end and while I’m walking to pick up my son:
I'm not sure if I can make the meeting but wanted to show a list of things that are going on outside of the core development and things that I think deserve attention:
- Ravenland made an OS for the PI, which significantly reduces the difficulty threshold of creating full nodes. https://ravencoinos.org/. I am still planning on helping @push | ravenland.org with some tools for it but very swamped with work lately (Sorry @push | ravenland.org!)
- Mangofarm is very busy developing their web-wallet and asset management services. https://www.mangofarmassets.com/. There will be new features coming.
- Mangofarm is in a far stage with Trezor integration and just finished their first transaction.
- Mangofarm and Ravenland are busy setting up an IPFS swarm to make sure all RVN data will stay active. Reach out to them if you like to be a part of it.
- I am in continuous talks with people/services interested in supporting RVN (I get mainly approached on telegram). And would like to mention once again that, imho, Raven could greatly benefit from a bounty system like: https://bounty.bitcoin.com/. Not only to 1 attract devs but also because 2 people don't know how to donate (yes I am getting the question), 3 current community funds are poorly managed, if at all, 4 there are coin services emerging where trading fees can be routed back to community projects and without going into details, I do talk to some.
Tron04/12/2019
It is open source. Both will be.
traysi ★★★★★04/12/2019
Current Android wallet is not on github.
Tron04/12/2019
Super cool stuff from Ravenland and MangoFarm !!!!
[Master] Roshii04/12/2019
https://github.com/RavenProject/ravenwallet-android
GitHub
RavenProject/ravenwallet-android
Contribute to RavenProject/ravenwallet-android development by creating an account on GitHub.
traysi ★★★★★04/12/2019
Latest commit 5134271 on Oct 4, 2018
Tron04/12/2019
Could we use the same people that did the legal fund to do a bounty fund?
traysi ★★★★★04/12/2019
Is that the latest version @[Master] Roshii ?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
Bounty for what @Tron
[Master] Roshii04/12/2019
Yes
Tron04/12/2019
For the wallet for download.
That will become RVN Wallet Classic.
traysi ★★★★★04/12/2019
It seems some people are using an android wallet different than that one.
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)04/12/2019
back to the discussion on the Restricted asset cost - it seems to me that it should be 5k +, as it's such a specialized use case (institutions)... KYC/AML shouldn't be cheap
CPT d0JA04/12/2019
im all for bounties for things but they must be discussed upon and agreed in public space and i dont think its fair if certain people have access to that knowledge of bounties before they are posted to get a head start on the work and claim the bounty right after its posted
my 2 pennies
Tron04/12/2019
The PR in there is for asset support. We're testing this afternoon
Vincent04/12/2019
@DirkDiggler (RVN ded) i think cheap, the more users the merrier
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
Def needs to be real expensive... I dont wanna see a market for this
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
@CPT d0JA I agree with you. All should be done and agreed upon in public. Nothing in backrooms.
Tron04/12/2019
So I have a "cheap" and a "real expensive". PERFECT!
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)04/12/2019
consensus :)
kott04/12/2019
must be expensive
Vincent04/12/2019
we want RVN used...make it affordable for all
bhorn04/12/2019
i'm with wider-use
less expensive
Tron04/12/2019
Two cheaps and two real expensive.
Vincent04/12/2019
to be continued......
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)04/12/2019
these guys arent seeing the big picture of who would be using this type of asset
cheap is a relative term
CPT d0JA04/12/2019
so moving forward if people have some good ideas for bounties they should be posted in a public space and then discussed amongst the community, there should be no closed room discussions or people in power making the decisions on which bounties are posted, especially for things the coin doesnt need.
Synicide04/12/2019
tags can be used for many use cases outside of KYC though, as Tron has used subscriptions as an example
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)04/12/2019
as is expensive...
Vincent04/12/2019
@Tronare u aware of any tokens, like vinsent, that will issue and burn a lot of coin just based on the use plan?
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
unique assets, despite being only 5RVN could burn a lot of RVN
theDopeMedic04/12/2019
What would that do to the burn if it's more expensive?
Hardman (CEO - dipshit)04/12/2019
I think the choice should be made in a way that its good for the basis of the project, not for interest of a few, sounds harsh I know. What if new asset_types arise, will those owning the current asset always get a freecard to get it first? Wouldn't be fair.
Vincent04/12/2019
agree
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)04/12/2019
5000 ravens burned to KYC folks is a bargain... and it helps all us dipshit bag holders of RVN
Vincent04/12/2019
if GM tokenized each vehicle...they would burn a lot annually
bhorn04/12/2019
imagine years down the road, if price continues to increase
Tron04/12/2019
I agree that the types of organizations that would use for SEC compliance are not going to worry whether it costs $5 or $100. But some subscription, games, vip groups, etc. may be more price sensitive.
Vincent04/12/2019
why are u worrying about the cost of running other peoples business tho...it is about RVN acceptance
CPT d0JA04/12/2019
increasing the burn rate has the negative affect of reducing the total number of assets that can be created on ravencoin
bhorn04/12/2019
it could get to the point where its prohibitively expensive to use the chain
Synicide04/12/2019
we don't want to price out that small guy wanting to run a subscription based platform though, we want as widespread usage as possible
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
What jf we did something like this :
The more charachers, the cheaper it gets
Let the big corps pay alot on their 3 letters
Vincent04/12/2019
overload
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
Then small corps can pay less with their 5+ letter assers
Tron04/12/2019
We do want usage (now). But we want the costs to reflect the real cost of chain usage so we don't mess up scaling.
theDopeMedic04/12/2019
Assuming everyone who already owns an asset (19059) issues a restricted at 5k, then that burns 95,285,000 RVN. Not just that, it may be prohibitive to the small guy.
liqdmetal04/12/2019
500 for original and 1500 for restricted (tohelp cover extra on chain burden) is my vote
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)04/12/2019
cost of the restricted asset isn't a hill i am ready to die on... i just think it should be more costly than a standard asset
Vincent04/12/2019
plus think of develping nations...their 'restricted' needs may be much different and expensive will have them lok for alternatives
Tron04/12/2019
@liqdmetal I like that range.
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)04/12/2019
1500 would be good in my book as well
Synicide04/12/2019
I hadn't picked a number in mind, but I like that range too
liqdmetal04/12/2019
so total cost for a restricted would be 500 + 1500
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)04/12/2019
2k all in? i like
Vincent04/12/2019
500/500
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
Sounds good to me
Tron04/12/2019
Everybody was all at 500/1500 until Vincent. WTH
Vincent04/12/2019
haha
Tron04/12/2019
Just kidding.
kott04/12/2019
ignore him 500/1500 is perfect
Vincent04/12/2019
i voted cheap first
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)04/12/2019
there is always one in the crowd :)
theDopeMedic04/12/2019
Is there are favorite horse with the @Core Developer s?
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
roger that
𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖔𝖓 𝕳𝖆𝖗𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖔 CEO ∞04/12/2019
wait, i didn't approve anything yet :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
I see 1500 being reasonable and scalable.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
2k all in for the ! and the $
A reasonable compromise
Synicide04/12/2019
neither of them is bad when we keep in mind Restricted cost is the sum of both
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
@theDopeMedic seabiscuit
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
manowar
[Master] Roshii04/12/2019
Yes there is are favorite horse with the Core Devs
theDopeMedic04/12/2019
Tonto
bhorn04/12/2019
i'm more agreeable to the higher price given that you need UNIQUE! to get $UNIQUE as well.
Vincent04/12/2019
so we agree. table this decision :nerd:
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs04/12/2019
I think we did some good discussion today. Lets call it.
Tron04/12/2019
This was actually really productive. I like where we landed.
Cheers, everyone.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor04/12/2019
I'd be ok w 500/1500
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs04/12/2019
Can we close the channel
@Moderator
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
Thanks everyone.
Gintonic (sold Honda)04/12/2019
Thanks
Vincent04/12/2019
:thumbsup:
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)04/12/2019
have a good weekend
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
Byr
theDopeMedic04/12/2019
Thanks everyone! :beers:
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org04/12/2019
Happy feet
Seal Clubber04/12/2019
Oh no
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
:bepbep:... I had to srry
neil04/12/2019
Close!
theDopeMedic04/12/2019
https://tenor.com/view/thanos-confused-gif-11877270
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)04/12/2019
Thanks Tron
Thanks Devs!
Chill04/12/2019
I'm ok with 500/500 up to 500/1500
Seal Clubber04/12/2019
That would be 2k total right
IRSJonPizza | JON.NETWORK04/12/2019
Quik mas
Vincent04/12/2019
i dont plan on having any restricted assets but just think worldwide it will help the coin to keep it real user friendly
traysi ★★★★★04/12/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Try closing the channel
Looks like that works.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs04/12/2019
Yep it did :smiley:
i got permissions now :smiley:
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Of Wolves and Weasels - Day 45 - Breadth and Scope

Hey all! GoodShibe here!
Yesterday I spoke about those off doing great work on our behalf, taking the lead or pushing the boundaries of what Dogecoin can do.
I think today is a great chance for everyone to get a real sense of what's going on here - what a group of 65,000+ Shibes has and is accomplishing as we speak (err... type).
So, please, if I've forgotten anyone, don't feel bad -- especially if you're doing something in another sub -- just let me know in the comments and I'll add it to the list, okay?
Here we go!
Recently Completed Projects
Announcements/Shares
Competitions/Promotions
Merchants
Services
In Progress
Have I missed something? I'm sure I've missed something! I can keep going but I'm already running late for work (got carried away)! Post in the comments and I'll add as I have time over the course of the day :D)
It's 9:14AM EST and we're at 52.53% of DOGEs found. Our Global Hashrate is spiking from ~68 to ~89 Gigahashes per second but our Difficulty is still riding low at ~1027!
Go! Mine! Have fun!
As always, I appreciate your support!
GoodShibe
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Sixteen ideas to save Western civilization

Idea one

Rather than funding a Darwinian triathlon that leaves thousands of people dead every year, in which those young men who are best capable of jumping fences, swimming through rivers and crossing deserts are given a ticket to paradise, we declare today that no more refugees will be given entrance into Europe. Instead, every Euro that is currently spent on providing shelter and care for refugees in Europe, will be used for refugees in their country of origin. With a guarantee that there is not a snowball's chance in hell of being granted asylum in Europe, the refugee stream to our continent will plummet. This will allow those NGO's who currently spend their money transporting people from Libya to Italy, to spend their scarce resources on helping refugees where they actually live. The cost of providing for one refugee in the Netherlands is 20 to 40 times higher than providing for the same refugee in his country of origin.
The moment we change our policy towards refugees, towards one based on rational sanity, is the moment we can start taking care of twenty to forty times as many of them. This will be necessary in the years ahead, as climate change, soil erosion and overpopulation will create a refugee crisis the likes of which humanity has never seen before. How about highly skilled refugees? You might ask. The thing is, those refugees will be the people who will be needed to rebuild the countries they fled from. If they live here, they can't help rebuild the communities that were destroyed.

Idea two

Europe is faced with a demographic crisis, as our fertility rates are very low. There are many different solutions to this, but one solution I have not heard before is as following: Let the height of our child benefits payments depend on the average age of the population of a municipality. The government should be paying people in rural communities to have children. Many of these communities have conservative Christians, who would be quite willing to have more children if they could afford to raise them. What we don't want, are child benefit payments going to overpopulated cities. What we need is for people to migrate from cities to our dying villages and for people living in those villages to have more children.
Our cities are home to our underclass, people who are unable to make something out of their life, often due to hereditary problems. Schizophrenia is twice as common in the cities for example. The people who live in cities tend to be descended from the rural peasants who were unable to make a living in the countryside. This is unfortunate, but it is the reality we have to deal with. What we want is for children to be born in the best possible conditions to guarantee a happy life. This is a conclusion I have reached, by virtue of the fact that I was born into the urban underclass myself. I want children to be born with more opportunities than I had. This tends to be very difficult to understand if you're born into a wealthy or middle class family.

Idea three

We don't just have to implement repatriation subsidies for migrants who live in Europe. In fact, we should implement broader emigration subsidies. We have more young men than young women, while Russia, Ukraine and the Baltic states have more young women than young men. The fertility rates of Europe as well as Russia would go up if we sent men to Russia. Ideally, Russian would be a language that's taught in high school here.
We also have millions of citizens in our continent, who yearn for more diversity and feel disgusted by the sight of a homogeneous European community. Europe to them is a racist monolithic continent and they worry greatly about the plight of Africans. What better way to help them achieve their dreams, than by paying them to migrate to Africa, a continent full of multicultural countries, where everyone speaks a different language and has unique customs? Everyone benefits from this. Africa desperately needs skilled people, while Southern Europe is full of young unemployed people. A gender studies, sociology or cultural anthropology degree is useless here in Europe. I'm sure it can be quite useful in Africa however.

Idea four

When it comes to income, women want to marry up, men want to marry down. If women can't find a man to marry with higher status than themselves, many simply refuse to marry and never reproduce. This is a big problem, because young women right now tend to earn more money than young men. There's a reason for this: Discrimination. White working class boys are least likely to go to university. These boys are not all stupid, but the culture they live in makes it difficult for them to succeed in life. In fact, the kind of long-term investment that college represents, is one that these boys who grew up in unpredictable insecure circumstances do not find appealing. In addition, white working class boys are not very interested in listening to long tirades about how they are guilty of everyone else's long history of suffering.
The problem we need to understand, is that education is now not used by employers as a requirement because the skills taught are relevant. No, educational requirements are used by employers to filter out dumb and unreliable people. The effect this has is to favor women over men, giving women an unfair advantage on the labor market. Neither women nor men benefit from women having an unfair advantage on the labor market. Besides the fact that a woman might not be better suited to the particular job she got by virtue of her college degree, women don't benefit from living in a society where there are no men whose salary can deliver them a similar standard of living as their own.
If we were to make it illegal to discriminate against the uneducated, we take away the unfair advantage women have over men. Certainly, we don't want uneducated people to become doctors, nuclear power plant operators or air pilots, but we really don't need people with four year college degrees to carry out mid-level office work for us. Another good measure to use is to hide the gender and name of a candidate for a position. Studies show that people prefer to hire women over men. In practice, being a good looking young woman is an enormous unfair advantage on the job market, for the simple reason that middle-aged men in management positions think with their dick.
What happens when college education can no longer be used as a status indicator by employers, is that a big part of the incentive to go to college disappears. As a result, eighteen year old boys and girls can simply apply for a white-collar job, rather than first having to spend four years studying some particular subject they'll never make practical use of again. What this means is that people are able to become mature much faster than they do today. A person aged 25 might feel ready to have children because they have been saving money for years, whereas today a 25 year old is still paying off their college debt and feel frightened by the thought of having children.

Idea five

Implement a big progressive tax on private land ownership, unless the land is covered in trees. Most of the land in Scotland is owned by a few private individuals, who just have massive herds of animals that eat the land bare. Scotland used to be covered with trees, all that's necessary for the trees to grow back is for the herds of animals to be removed. When we implement progressive taxes on land ownership, farmers who produce a lot of food with little land will find their business more profitable, while farmers who waste a lot of land will find their business to be costly. As an example, mushrooms farms use very little land, to produce a lot of food. Cattle pastures on the other hand, use a lot of land to produce hardly any food. When land ownership costs money, land can no longer be used for blind speculation. As a result, the property bubble should start to deflate. This is highly needed, because the young are now unable to buy houses because of the ridiculous prices we're dealing with. Those of us who can buy houses are afraid to do so, because prices could crash fifty percent and we would become prisoners in our own homes. If you're 65 or older, a decline in prices might suck, but you don't have a strong need to relocate anymore. Because we're unable to buy houses, we're unable to start families.

Idea six

Most of the people in our prisons have double passports. A simple wise solution would be to give prisoners a choice: Renounce your citizenship of our country, in exchange for release from prison. Let Morocco, Turkey and other countries handle these people. When these people choose to move back to their country of origin, it creates an incentive for their families to move back too. What about those prisoners who have just a single passport? Offer them a reduced sentence, depending on where they're willing to sit out their sentence. As an example, you could cut a prison sentence by 25%, if the prisoner is willing to be imprisoned in French Guyana. By the time they are released, they might simply stay there.
Another option that is very important is euthanasia. Prisoners need to have the right to choose to end their lives. Some people consider the death penalty inhumane. I consider sticking someone in a concrete box for twenty years to be far more inhumane myself. Most have no real chance of building up a meaningful life after they're released. There are actually a large number of prisoners and former prisoners who insist that the death penalty is more humane than a prison sentence, because our society treats former prisoners as second class citizens.

Idea seven

Implement a big tax on the use of our air space. Any plane that passes through our air space will have to cough up large amounts of money. This is great, because air travel has to be disincentivized. Most importantly, it increases the expenses of people who own private jets, which are a complete waste of our society's scarce resources. Currently, Americans charge roughly 30 dollar per 100 kilometer to people passing over their land surface. This is negligible. Try multiplying that rate by ten and see how much people still travel by airplane.

Idea eight

The Netherlands has the highest petrol taxes in the world. This is fantastic. The whole world needs to follow our example. Why? Because oil eventually runs out, so it's better that we prepare for it by encouraging a transitioning away from cars, rather than being caught by surprise. "But China and India!" Joe Sixpack proclaims. I don't care. Let them do what they want to do. If they want to create a big fossil fuel dependent economy, let them go ahead. By the time we run out of fossil fuels, their economies will implode. I think we similarly need a big tax on anyone who has more than a single car registered on his name.

Idea nine

Implement a constitutional amendment, requiring elected heads of state to have children. Why? Most of our political elite doesn't have children. If you don't bother to provide your own contribution to the future of our society at an individual level, why should I expect you will manage to do it at a collective level? What if our head of state is gay? He needs to find himself a wife who doesn't shave her legs, use his imagination, lie back and think of England. People used to make sacrifices for their community.
What investment in the future does a childless leader have? He's a parasite, who ultimately expects other people's children to pay for his retirement. Donald Trump is forced to listen to his daughter, who understands that climate change will prove to be a real problem. If you raised children, your interests align more closely with the interests of the next generation, who are ultimately the people who are carrying the torch of civilization forward. If physiological problems prohibit you from having children, adopted children count too. The kind of person who doesn't want to raise children is the kind of person I don't trust ruling over a country.

Idea ten

Charles Galton Darwin was probably first to propose this, but it can't be said enough: We need to make foreign aid dependent upon a nation's population control efforts. Look at this map of abortion laws to understand what's going to cause us problems in the years ahead. Countries that legalize abortion should receive priority in all of our dealings with them.

Idea eleven

We need to bring this new cold war with Russia to an end. I know, they don't allow gay pride parades. Deal with it. If the people of the world are going to have a place to live, it's going to have to be Russia. Russia, Greenland, Canada, Alaska, these are the kind of places where humans will survive a century from now. We need to be planning ahead for that future, rather than fighting each other over petty cultural differences. Why have we been fueling a bloody civil war in Syria since 2011? It's the greatest waste of human potential in recent history.

Idea twelve

We can simultaneously improve our diet, reduce climate change, heal the ocean and give most of the world's land surface back to nature. It's explained here. China, Korea and Japan produce 88% of the world's seaweed right now. Why are we, in Europe, North America and Oceania not contributing? The solutions exist to our problems, but we're not applying them.
Throw subsidies at mushrooms, seaweed and shellfish. Eventually, you'll get the public to switch their diet and you can begin abandoning most of the world's surface.

Idea thirteen

Happy societies are societies with plenty of young people and few old people. Particularly, it's important to have more young women than mature men. When the population is growing, war is common and life expectancies are low, this is easy. The fact of the matter is, that it's simply not a lot of fun to be old. In addition, old people have to be cared for by young people. We could kill all the old people, but I don't think anyone's looking forward to that.
What I would suggest instead is that we work on getting rid of aging. "What, are you suggesting immortality?" No, I'm suggesting we've got our priorities wrong. Life expectancy at age 65 was 13 years for women in 1930, 21 years in 2010. So, the average retired woman will have eight extra years of life. This is fine, but why is so much money spent on keeping people alive longer? How about we shift our priorities towards keeping people young longer? It's possible to increase the number of eggs a woman has. Dehydroepiandrosterone is effectively used to gradually increase a woman's egg count over the months, until a woman who was infertile is fertile again. This was discovered, not in a state of the art laboratory. It was discovered by a woman who had difficulty conceiving and decided to start experimenting on herself.
What kind of quality of life do you have as an 80 year old? Not a lot. What kind of quality of life do you have as a youthful looking fertile woman? Quite a lot. I know that I'm eventually going to die, so dragging it out doesn't matter much to me. If you can increase the percentage of time that I spend youthful on the other hand, I'm all ears. The best method we have to accomplish this currently seems to be the use of senolytics, substances that kill senescent cells, which are cells that have grown old and prohibit younger cells from reproducing (kind of like the babyboomers). The senescent cells do this by creating speculative housing bubble- err secreting substances that cause inflammation. Senolytics are the equivalent of a suicide bomber who only targets golf courses and cruise ships.

Idea fourteen

Why do we have massive office complexes everywhere? Most people can do their work from home. We soon won't need all the roads we have today either, because we will have self-driving cars. Self-driving cars don't need vast distances between vehicles due to our mediocre human reflexes. In addition, they can more easily share multiple passengers. We won't need all this parking space we have now either. Because people will be able to work from home and order products from home, we will need far less travel too. It's thought we can reduce the number of cars needed from 245 million, to just 2.4 million, through self-driving cars. That's not a typo, it's a 99% reduction.
Technology renders humans obsolete, we say. I think we're not thinking this through clearly enough: Technology renders technology obsolete. If we can use Bitcoin as a store of value, demand for gold declines. If demand for gold declines, we don't need gold mines. We don't need televisions anymore, we're using our computers now for that. Most people don't need a desktop computer, they can do just about everything with a smartphone or a laptop. Paper production has peaked, most of it is now used for packaging. If our population peaks, we don't need to build new houses. Colleges? You can study from home.
The city is full of space we won't need in the future. Parking garages are a thing of the past, companies will rent an office for two hours a week to hold a meetup. What are we going to do with all of that space? We can use it to grow food. A Dutch company grows mushrooms of the non-magical variety in an old swimming pool. If we grow food locally, it won't need packaging.
So what happens next? Minimalism. If we're wise we will live like Sadhus. What else will we not need? Houses. If you can work from home and video-conference your colleagues if you don't want to show up to a meeting, or receive a basic income and don't really have a formal job, why would you want to own a house? You can simply rent a house for a night through AirBnB. You don't really need to own anything. A lawnmower? There's always someone in your street who has one and you can earn money online by renting yours out. Ideally, you wouldn't even have your own clothing. At any moment, 90+% of my clothing goes unused, just like most cars go unused.
What do you think this is? Fully automated communism. What causes it? The free market. It's American free market capitalism, run by right-wing libertarians like Peter Thiel, that destroyed the taxi companies and the hotels. Some of the Silicon Valley tech startup guru's don't own anything other than a smartphone. Isn't it ironic? The Chinese and the Russians pursued communism and accidentally ended up with capitalism. We pursued capitalism and accidentally gave birth to communism.

Idea fifteen

What's the biggest problem in the Middle East today? Endless pointless violence. What causes this endless pointless violence? A small minority of men who monopolize the women and indoctrinate everyone with hateful ideologies. This is sufficient to get the young men to sign up for whatever idiotic millenarian group happens to run their town. The only reason the Middle East can function the way it does, is because everyone is sober. Alcohol and other psychoactive substances are forbidden. There's a simple reason for this. Sexual repression is difficult to sustain in a culture with access to alcohol. Alcohol makes people promiscuous, because it reduces inhibition. Psychedelics can make people promiscuous too, because psychedelics make you lose faith in authoritarian structures altogether and reduce your fear of death.
But how do you keep those substances away from people, in a world where you can order them anonymously on the internet? The government looks for heat from the light used when it wants to find indoor cannabis plants. But how will that work, when you have yeast that can produce THC? Don't even get me started on Psilocybe mushrooms, which you can grow in your own house using little other than a glass jar and some wheat bran. And what do you think happens when people can order abortion pills and euthanasia drugs off the internet? These authoritarian structures have no future. Islamist fundamentalism is a temporary blip on the radar, that will be followed by an implosion of Islam. The bloodshed of ISIS has alienated an entire generation of young Muslims, who now realize that consistently applying Islamic laws doesn't solve anything but merely makes the misery worse.
Studies show that Psilocybin mushrooms are increasingly commonly consumed, because the information on how to grow them is available everywhere. And those who take the mushrooms, report improved mental health. We haven't even begun to scratch the surface of the various substances out there and how they interact. How long do you think the taboo on cannabis will last when it becomes indisputable that use by the elderly prevents dementia? How long do you think the taboo on Salvia will last? Salvia treats opioid addiction, Americans can't afford to maintain the taboo.
What I am proposing here, is a psychedelic renaissance. Our culture is on the verge of shifting towards one where people will have no desire to dominate, but merely yearn to spread love, happiness and compassion. This is a cultural state shift, the likes of which we haven't seen in centuries. It can happen and it won't have to be limited just to the Western world. It can spread around the globe in the same manner as most of our great cultural innovations have.

Idea sixteen

When do we begin to comprehend that we're eating the wrong things? When you're staring with your microscope at the particular genes of a piece of lettuce so that you can geneticaly engineer it to be resistant against a common mold, does it never occur to you that if your crop is plagued by an endless list of pests, you might need to consider eating something else? Why do we have factory farms when the Southern United States are plagued by feral pigs? Why can't rednecks make a living selling the feral hogs they shot? Why do we eat chickens who can't walk, when our pastures are plagued by millions of geese?
"It's not cost-effective" Your government will say. And the reason it's not cost-effective is because you won't let it be cost effective. You create legislation that favors the big guy over the small guy and allow supermarket conglomerates to conquer the globe. Only big farms in England that own sufficient land can apply for farm subsidies, while small farms that make efficient use of their land can't qualify. You force people to leave their small towns and migrate to massive cities. You place subsidies on animal fodder like corn and allow people to bottom trawl the oceans and feed the fish to factory farm animals because they harvest so much fish they have no idea what to do with it. You artificially destroy oyster reefs that people use to gather wild oysters, because the oyster farmers feel threatened. It's not cost-effective because you're scared to death of what happens when it does become cost-effective!
Sunchokes grow like weeds here in the Netherlands, I grow them in a bucket as I can't plant them in my soil as they'd take over everything. And yet, our diet is built around potatoes. The average Dutch potato has residue of 36 different pesticides. People think we're innovative, but that's nonsense. We have change forced upon us, but we refuse to adapt to nature. We'd rather watch everything go to hell than to adjust to the conditions we live in. We seem to insist on having the most bland unhealthy diet imaginable, produced in the most inefficient method imaginable. Now that it's becoming difficult to sustain, we're planning on the next insanity: GMO crops. Rather than adjusting to nature, we'll come up with a crop of our own that produces its own pesticides. Whatever genetic diversity still remains in a crop is lost when the farmers switch to GMO crops. As a result, GMO crops don't solve anything, because the real problem we're dealing with is a lack of genetic diversity in our crops.
I envision a future where everyone grows his own food, not as sterile monocultures but a variety of crops grown together, while mushrooms grow in office towers and seaweed is brought in from the ocean. You'll live in a tent and travel around, following the feral pigs, deer and camels. When people tell you civilization has collapsed, you wouldn't notice the difference. You'd be too happy to care either way.
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    5. I want to extend a huge thanks to Phecalfeliac who has successfully given us our very own tip bot! (nyantip) Please post in this topic so we can all tip you our thanks (with your own bot). (23 points, 80 comments)
    6. We are going to 500 subscribers this weekend: I guarantee it. Nyancoin has exploded, and I just want you to look at how far you've come in just 7 days. (23 points, 34 comments)
    7. Prepare to play... GAME OF NYANCAT. The Kingdom that wins will split a 1000 Nyancoin bounty, and all players are eligible for random tips. (22 points, 63 comments)
    8. GAME OF NYANCAT, Episode 2 (1/27/14)... Play NOW for free and win free Nyancoins! Every player will get tipped coins, and the Kingdom that wins will split up to a 1,000 NYAN treasure! Let the quest begin! (21 points, 73 comments)
    9. I took care of the vincent21212 & fake Nyancoin subreddit problem. (21 points, 14 comments)
    10. GAME OF NYANCAT, Episode 3 (1/28/14)... Play NOW for free and win free Nyancoins! Every player will get tipped coins, and the Kingdom that wins will split up to a 1,000 NYAN treasure! Let the quest begin! (20 points, 60 comments)
  3. 326 points, 40 submissions: atheistftwins
    1. BEWARE! Crycurex.com may be attempting to add NYAN! (22 points, 8 comments)
    2. Lets make Nyancoin games! Increased bounty size to 40,000 NYAN! (20 points, 59 comments)
    3. In honor of our recent success and becoming the biggest cat-themed coin on reddit, I'm hosting a giveaway and raffle! (15 points, 190 comments)
    4. Lets make a game for Nyancoin! 10,000 NYAN bounty! (14 points, 43 comments)
    5. Dev says Chris and the Nyancat team will begin heavy promotion of the coin soon! What should the community do to support this? (13 points, 4 comments)
    6. It's time for the community to revive this coin. Promotional campaign: 50,000 NYAN bounty! (12 points, 66 comments)
    7. Preparation for KGW: up to 11,000 NYAN giveaway. One person will walk away with 2500 NYAN! (To my knowledge the biggest tip that will have been given away here.) (11 points, 44 comments)
    8. We just passed difficulty of 10! Giving away 10 NYAN to anyone who posts here up to 1000 NYAN! (11 points, 229 comments)
    9. We need more marketing of the coin. (11 points, 21 comments)
    10. Flash NYAN giveaway! Will last 24 hours instead of usual 6. Meta-topic: What kind of giveaway does the community want? (10 points, 42 comments)
  4. 266 points, 33 submissions: braxx1980
    1. new exchange looking for trading pairs... voting NYAN up (19 points, 28 comments)
    2. maybe we need some nyancoin support from deadmau5 and skrillex (16 points, 5 comments)
    3. NYAN now also listed on cryptx.io (14 points, 5 comments)
    4. [idea] why not ask doge 4 water to add NYAN (13 points, 9 comments)
    5. NYANcoin... to boldly go where no NYAN has gone before CYBERSPACE (12 points, 8 comments)
    6. apologies to Joel (easyjo) for the FUD for altoutlet. He is the best. Giving Nyan a chance to his store... THANK YOU JOEL (12 points, 1 comment)
    7. GREAT NEWS: altoutlet.com is going to add us this week (11 points, 3 comments)
    8. TIME IS UP... let's find ourself a new developer (11 points, 9 comments)
    9. We hit COINMARKETCAP (@the moment place 66) (11 points, 18 comments)
    10. CALL OUT TO DEV: give us some status on the work on X11. I'll give you until 1 may. (10 points, 6 comments)
  5. 232 points, 29 submissions: Simcom
    1. More positive press!! The battle over Nyancoin: How a cat meme inspired a cryptocurrency war [TheDailyDot] (22 points, 1 comment)
    2. Nyancoin was just listed on it's first Chinese exchange! (15 points, 8 comments)
    3. How I feel when one of my NYAN tips is rejected. (14 points, 14 comments)
    4. [Giveaway - 2000 NyanCoin for tipping!] Go forth Space Kitties - to the the far reaches of Reddit!! Spread the the gospel of NyanCoin to all you encounter!! (14 points, 162 comments)
    5. Nyancoin is now listed on Cryptsy!!! (13 points, 14 comments)
    6. This was just shared with 3 Million People on Facebook!!! (11 points, 5 comments)
    7. Welcome newcomers! If you haven't done so already - stop by the 1st Official Reddit Giveaway thread for 33.7 free coins! [Repost] (11 points, 1 comment)
    8. Flight Commander Sgt. Fluffy McMeower, reporting for duty. (10 points, 6 comments)
    9. Let's Roll (10 points, 0 comments)
    10. Nyancoin added to the Cryptsy voting list!! VOTE NOW!!!!!! (10 points, 10 comments)
  6. 208 points, 13 submissions: nyancoin
    1. NYANCOIN FIRST OFFICIAL REDDIT GIVEAWAY - 33.7 nyancoins for the first 337 comments! (43 points, 744 comments)
    2. Nyancoin V 1.2 Out Now! Kimoto Gravity Well Implemented! MANDATORY UPDATE (28 points, 28 comments)
    3. Dev Updates (19 points, 14 comments)
    4. Some updates from the dev team (18 points, 22 comments)
    5. [Giveaway] 10 FREE NYANCOINS to the First 1000 Posts! (17 points, 204 comments)
    6. Dev Updates + Kimoto Gravity Well is here! (16 points, 17 comments)
    7. Check out the first Nyancoin promo video! (13 points, 26 comments)
    8. Nyan Cat Store Pre-opening Offer! (13 points, 40 comments)
    9. News and Update on Nyancoin (12 points, 31 comments)
    10. Nyancoin will be switching to X11 Algo! (11 points, 33 comments)
  7. 173 points, 35 submissions: KojoSlayer
    1. NyanCoin Miner v0.06 [Game WIP] (12 points, 19 comments)
    2. Nyancoin Pixel Art In MC (First Attempt!) (8 points, 5 comments)
    3. To Buy All The Nyan On Cryptsy 12.27904283 BTC Or 3004.19 US Dollars (8 points, 9 comments)
    4. New To Nyan & Cryptocurrency (7 points, 13 comments)
    5. Two Faucets?! One Week! This coins is dead I say! (7 points, 32 comments)
    6. [Bounty] 5,000 Nyan, 10,000 Nyan! Faucet! (7 points, 24 comments)
    7. [Hype][Update] Browser based MMORPG accepting Nyancoins. (7 points, 13 comments)
    8. Dice soft launch (6 points, 8 comments)
    9. Meow (6 points, 0 comments)
    10. Miners We Need YOU! (6 points, 20 comments)
  8. 163 points, 2 submissions: nyantip
    1. Hi, I am nyantip. I need karma to function. Upvote me and post something interesting in this thread to be tipped Nyancoin. (104 points, 170 comments)
    2. This is nyantip again. Do I need to submit a link to get karma? As usual, upvote me and post for a tip! (59 points, 99 comments)
  9. 117 points, 15 submissions: sillyputti
    1. I didn't finish this in time for the Game of Nyancat, but better late than never...Nyan Power! (15 points, 27 comments)
    2. Just mined my first 100 Nyan, testing out the tipbot. Come help me tip. (10 points, 101 comments)
    3. Made a tutorial for beginners on mining nyan. Let me know if I can make it better. Thanks. (10 points, 9 comments)
    4. Remember Nekonauts, we have some pretty cool subreddits worth checking out too. (10 points, 10 comments)
    5. Updated the old Java GUI Miner. Try it out and see how it works, may have some use when KGW hits. (10 points, 0 comments)
    6. Guys, guys! I saw nyancoin on the Crypto-Currency chart! (8 points, 10 comments)
    7. Brainstorming and tip session at /nyangaming (7 points, 0 comments)
    8. ELI5: The benefits of being "Officially Licensed" coin are? (7 points, 15 comments)
    9. Found my first block today. Sharing some nyan for new nekonauts. 100 nyan give away. (7 points, 122 comments)
    10. Link to the creating your own faucet (7 points, 5 comments)
  10. 103 points, 17 submissions: OnwardFlying
    1. I'm not into Nyancoins for the money, however... (12 points, 8 comments)
    2. FortyNyaners have a 0% fee, nice layout. I like. (10 points, 3 comments)
    3. Too much hashrate at Nyanmine. Please diversify! (9 points, 8 comments)
    4. IRC @ chat.freenode.net, #Nyancoin (8 points, 1 comment)
    5. The video that started it all! (7 points, 0 comments)
    6. AMD/esp. nVidia miners, get more kh/s from your cards. (6 points, 1 comment)
    7. Coined Up at 5-15 Satoshi again. Quick get your cheap nyan! (6 points, 4 comments)
    8. IRL Nyan Sightings Increase Dramatically - We need your proof they exist! (6 points, 1 comment)
    9. Is it about time we think about a good push for Cryptsy? (6 points, 15 comments)
    10. [Bounty] Create a Nyancoin meme, get 10 nyan per upvote! (6 points, 9 comments)
  11. 98 points, 5 submissions: kiyami
    1. I'm a graphic designer new to nyancoin/reddit and wanted to help out. Hope you like it! (39 points, 35 comments)
    2. Starry Night (25 points, 17 comments)
    3. Cats: Every single one has a God-complex. (19 points, 4 comments)
    4. BRAiN FREEZE (11 points, 10 comments)
    5. wow such ascent, many flap... my four favorite coins together 4ever. Wallpaper! (4 points, 3 comments)
  12. 97 points, 22 submissions: jwflame
    1. Map of Nyancoin Nodes (7 points, 6 comments)
    2. More market weirdness that cannot be explained (7 points, 1 comment)
    3. Cryptopia block explorer gone ? (6 points, 2 comments)
    4. Found another mining pool. (6 points, 3 comments)
    5. NYANSEED is online (6 points, 12 comments)
    6. New block explorer (6 points, 1 comment)
    7. The 3rd exchange returns (6 points, 1 comment)
    8. 'official' website has gone (5 points, 3 comments)
    9. Domains for chain and website (5 points, 8 comments)
    10. Novaexchange closing (5 points, 3 comments)
  13. 89 points, 9 submissions: valcarni
    1. Nyancoin makes SBS Australian news (18 points, 4 comments)
    2. Don't just be a casual nekonaut press subscribe and get this channel up to 500 users (16 points, 5 comments)
    3. We need a new currency exchange (15 points, 13 comments)
    4. Don't know if you all saw this but, Follow The Coin announces how Nyancoin is the first offically licensed cryptocurrency (12 points, 0 comments)
    5. Nyancoin on its way up (12 points, 7 comments)
    6. My first 7.349511 Nyan (5 points, 6 comments)
    7. My contribution to the community - Nyancoin Lotto (4 points, 4 comments)
    8. The value of Nyancoins (4 points, 7 comments)
    9. Just need one more player in Game 1 of Nyancoin Lotto (3 points, 2 comments)
  14. 75 points, 9 submissions: IntelligentComment
    1. Nyan gaining popularity (14 points, 14 comments)
    2. Announcement nyandispenser.tk/faucet has been hacked. Please do not go to that website (12 points, 12 comments)
    3. California passed law making Bitcoins & Other cryptocurrency legal money (11 points, 1 comment)
    4. Official Nyancoin youtube launch video. Millions of dollars spent for production!! (11 points, 3 comments)
    5. Mine as much as you can, the popularity wave is coming (6 points, 6 comments)
    6. Nyan Coin Mining subreddit - New (6 points, 0 comments)
    7. Official Nyancoin catch phrases vote thread! Vote and submit! (6 points, 11 comments)
    8. Post pics of your nyan coin mining rig! (5 points, 21 comments)
    9. How to pronounce Nyan (4 points, 3 comments)
  15. 72 points, 11 submissions: slasherzx
    1. How I describe nyantip bot (12 points, 3 comments)
    2. ASIC scrypt miners incoming! (8 points, 14 comments)
    3. Is our faucet dry? (8 points, 20 comments)
    4. We are back at top 100 in coinmarketcap (8 points, 14 comments)
    5. After KGw, what's next.? (7 points, 6 comments)
    6. Cuckoo cycle a new algo? (7 points, 2 comments)
    7. Lets celebrate KGW implemented! No one is stopping Nyan now! (6 points, 0 comments)
    8. KNC upped the speed from 100mhs to 250mhs.. (4 points, 4 comments)
    9. Scrypt Adaptive-N + Kimoto Gravity (4 points, 22 comments)
    10. moonishere pool owning 50+% of net hashrate (4 points, 0 comments)
  16. 68 points, 7 submissions: petert0th
    1. Shut up and take my nyancoins! (18 points, 24 comments)
    2. Faucet added to 2048nyancoinz! (14 points, 33 comments)
    3. 2048nyancoinz - 2048 game with a lot of nyanz:) (10 points, 8 comments)
    4. Nyan Dice public beta is here! Check it out and tell me what do you think about it! (8 points, 13 comments)
    5. 1000th 2048nyancoinz dispense is coming, 15 to go, 100 nyan bounty for the lucky dispenser. (6 points, 22 comments)
    6. Making 500 nyancoins to almost 4000? Congrats to the first "large multiplier" winner:) (6 points, 0 comments)
    7. NyanDice is almost here! PM me if you want to beta test it. (6 points, 4 comments)
  17. 65 points, 7 submissions: lzr1900
    1. A generous Nekonaut just donated almost 1 BTC to Cryptsy Votes,that made us be the 7th place there.Our community must do something to help our little nyancoin added on Cryptsy,we deserve that!!If 1/5 of Nekonauts(nearly 200) donate 0.01BTC each to Cryptsy will let us achieve this goal! (18 points, 22 comments)
    2. Nekonauts!We hit Coinedup!! (13 points, 14 comments)
    3. WTF!!!Freshmarket.co.in compromised!! (9 points, 10 comments)
    4. Vote Nyan for MintPal!This exchange seems really awesome. (7 points, 4 comments)
    5. 67000 blocks now! KGW working. (6 points, 0 comments)
    6. Aha.Thanks Coinedup.We have NYAN/LTC now.Happy trading:o. (6 points, 4 comments)
    7. I will start a brand new promotion in China recently,include some giveaways,games,etc in the fourms,weibo,QQgroups.Let the Chinese join NYAN!!!We will to da Sapce.Let's do it. (6 points, 10 comments)
  18. 63 points, 9 submissions: nyanstu
    1. Keep voting up NYAN on allcrypt!! http://www.allcrypt.com/beta/voting.php (15 points, 5 comments)
    2. Nekonauts for charity! (10 points, 20 comments)
    3. Let's get writing to publicize NYAN (7 points, 6 comments)
    4. Can someone hook up the price guide to coinedup? (6 points, 10 comments)
    5. Nyancoiners from all over the world... (6 points, 22 comments)
    6. Wikipedia for Nyancoin (6 points, 3 comments)
    7. Cryptsy? (5 points, 3 comments)
    8. Needed: team of brave Nekonauts! (5 points, 10 comments)
    9. Facebook page! (3 points, 9 comments)
  19. 59 points, 8 submissions: dhj0001
    1. Nyan.cat (14 points, 9 comments)
    2. It seems like we've generated some buzz for Nyancoin? (12 points, 5 comments)
    3. Progress of Kimoto Gravity Well? (10 points, 6 comments)
    4. Assistance with NYAN Faucet (6 points, 5 comments)
    5. Official NyanCoin images (5 points, 6 comments)
    6. Why is nyancoin falling? (5 points, 9 comments)
    7. New Nyancoin game up and running! Calling all sprite photoshop guru's for a nyan-themed upgrade! (4 points, 7 comments)
    8. Why do you think Nyancoin is one of the better cryptocurrency? (3 points, 3 comments)
  20. 57 points, 11 submissions: The-Bent
    1. My not quite finished Nyan display for the office (8 points, 11 comments)
    2. Added rainbow to the mining box. (7 points, 5 comments)
    3. My ghetto Nyan mining rig. (7 points, 20 comments)
    4. I got a 3D printer and made some things to help keep my Nyan mining rig cool! (6 points, 17 comments)
    5. Looks like Nyanchain is back up!! (5 points, 5 comments)
    6. So you just received your Moonlander 2, what now? (5 points, 9 comments)
    7. What mining at under 5 megahashes per second gets you. AKA: why I love Nyan! (5 points, 4 comments)
    8. mining rewards on chain.nyan.space (5 points, 5 comments)
    9. FutureBit Moonlander 2 is available. (3 points, 30 comments)
    10. how to node? (3 points, 5 comments)
  21. 52 points, 5 submissions: Rupluttaja
    1. How I feel when I'm drinking coins from a faucet (19 points, 8 comments)
    2. Gravity well should be set to be main priority. (16 points, 26 comments)
    3. And the Devs have left us in the shadows...again Please give the community some updates (7 points, 5 comments)
    4. What God-complex? Nyan is god, it has a halo. (5 points, 0 comments)
    5. What happened to the faucet? (5 points, 6 comments)
  22. 51 points, 7 submissions: slavethewhales
    1. CRYPTSY! (16 points, 2 comments)
    2. How would one go about creating a faucet? (7 points, 5 comments)
    3. Miss you guys (7 points, 7 comments)
    4. 67000 is here! (6 points, 0 comments)
    5. If you have an iPhone, request Nyancoin inclusion in the Coin Ticker app. Just go to Settings, Coin Request, then scroll down to Nyancoin and click the request button on the right. It's a really nice app and would be good exposure to get it in there. (6 points, 2 comments)
    6. A handy crypto converter, NYAN included! (5 points, 2 comments)
    7. Does anyone know how many hits per day the nyancoin faucet website gets? I'm curious about the overall interest in the coin at this point. (4 points, 2 comments)
  23. 46 points, 8 submissions: Snargosoft
    1. Nyan Coin is now 2nd on Cryptsy (10 points, 6 comments)
    2. 12 Hours Of Extra Free Nyan Coins! (8 points, 6 comments)
    3. New Nyan Coin Faucet (8 points, 14 comments)
    4. The New www.NyanCoin.Me (5 points, 10 comments)
    5. How to make a faucet (4 points, 1 comment)
    6. The Nyan Coin Faucet now dispenses Nyan Coins Automatically! (4 points, 6 comments)
    7. www.Nyancoin.Me Has Just Dispensed Their 1000th Coin! (4 points, 2 comments)
    8. Cryptsy Is Only Steps Away! While we are second, Let's Stay Second! Down With XRP (3 points, 2 comments)
  24. 46 points, 6 submissions: MAURO_italy
    1. 3RD AD CAMPAIGN!! LET'EM KNOW WE GOT IN ALTOUTLET! (9 points, 10 comments)
    2. TO THE MOON! (9 points, 9 comments)
    3. [RESURRECT] Advertising campaign! READ ME PLEASE! (9 points, 31 comments)
    4. [GROWING] 2ND AD CAMPAIGN! GET IN!! (8 points, 18 comments)
    5. Have an Happy St. Patrick's Day, Nekonauts! (6 points, 19 comments)
    6. [SUGGESTION] NYAN COINS MOBILE APP (5 points, 4 comments)
  25. 45 points, 7 submissions: jeredye
    1. FortyNyaners.com - New Mining Pool! - 0% FEES + Giaveaway! (10 points, 56 comments)
    2. Fortynyaners.com Pool Fee Increase (8 points, 9 comments)
    3. How to Create Nyancoin Vanity Addresses [Guide] (7 points, 20 comments)
    4. Upgraded Design - FortyNyaners.com - 0% Fee Pool (7 points, 12 comments)
    5. Fortynyaners.com GIVEAWAY #2! 0% Fee Pool - We need more miners! (6 points, 37 comments)
    6. Fortynyaners.com BLOCK FINDER BONUS ENABLED. 10 NYAN bonus per block! (4 points, 9 comments)
    7. FortyNyaners.com - 0% Fee Pool - SITE REDESIGN (3 points, 3 comments)
  26. 45 points, 5 submissions: Codge1
    1. A massive thank you to hu3m4n for your hard work! (13 points, 16 comments)
    2. The package came in today! Great way to start the weekend! (13 points, 3 comments)
    3. Ads running today!? (7 points, 2 comments)
    4. NYAN DICE GAME http://nyan.greendice.cc/ (6 points, 3 comments)
    5. Post here to get us listed on coinmarket.io and get 5 nyan!!! (6 points, 26 comments)
  27. 45 points, 3 submissions: kuoushi
    1. What it looks like drinking from the nyancoin faucet (27 points, 26 comments)
    2. I think I went farther than expected on 2048nyancoinz (11 points, 4 comments)
    3. Just a heads up, I think the nyandispenser.tk faucet was compromised. (7 points, 6 comments)
  28. 44 points, 9 submissions: peanut83
    1. Lets pump up the faucet I just added 20,000 nyan (8 points, 2 comments)
    2. After PoS (7 points, 1 comment)
    3. Stump the Geek (6 points, 4 comments)
    4. Nyancoin supply is almost 90m (5 points, 2 comments)
    5. why has hashrate jumped to 380.61 MH/s ? (5 points, 2 comments)
    6. would this be good for nyan? (4 points, 2 comments)
    7. Ex cryptsy user. I would buy this coin but I don't fancy using cryptopia (3 points, 7 comments)
    8. Nyancoin dirt cheap on cryptsy. (3 points, 4 comments)
    9. dead fb page can we remove? (3 points, 11 comments)
  29. 43 points, 4 submissions: The_Somnambulist
    1. Thank you, americanpegasus for Game of Nyan and all your hard work. (22 points, 12 comments)
    2. Nyancoin wallpaper 2560x1600 (11 points, 9 comments)
    3. Nyancoin giveaway! (6 points, 55 comments)
    4. Nyancoin for science (4 points, 10 comments)
  30. 43 points, 4 submissions: xpliset
    1. Help us get on cryptsy and get 20 free NYAN (17 points, 177 comments)
    2. Help NyanCoin get on another exchange and receive 50 NYAN! (13 points, 131 comments)
    3. www.nyanmine.com running its second promotion (8 points, 6 comments)
    4. Vote for nyancoin on coinpayments (5 points, 5 comments)
  31. 42 points, 7 submissions: snarklasers
    1. Yes, tipnyan is down ATM. (14 points, 7 comments)
    2. Tipping Tuesday; time for original Nyan memes. (7 points, 5 comments)
    3. Recap of what happened last week. :) (6 points, 10 comments)
    4. Network stuck again. Any ideas? (5 points, 37 comments)
    5. Nyancat is now broken. (4 points, 9 comments)
    6. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (3 points, 8 comments)
    7. Caturday Contest: Nyan Cat Auditions (3 points, 10 comments)
  32. 39 points, 4 submissions: abyssea
    1. This is how I feel with my NyanCoins :( (18 points, 1 comment)
    2. Just ordered a mining rig and a little nervous! (9 points, 25 comments)
    3. New Miner Setup and Ready! (7 points, 9 comments)
    4. Is something wrong with the Nyancoin Calculator? (5 points, 7 comments)
  33. 39 points, 3 submissions: procrypt
    1. NYAN > USD/GBP/EUBTC/DOGE spreadsheet (21 points, 28 comments)
    2. How I felt when I saw the estimated next difficulty (13 points, 16 comments)
    3. Nyan Tipping etiquette (5 points, 3 comments)
  34. 38 points, 5 submissions: brennancellis
    1. We did it! (10 points, 13 comments)
    2. Here's some nyancoin wallpapers!!! (9 points, 3 comments)
    3. Contest for Nyancoin! (7 points, 10 comments)
    4. Doge did it, so should we! (7 points, 9 comments)
    5. Check out the wiki and see what it needs! (5 points, 4 comments)

Top Commenters

  1. nyantip (2350 points, 1872 comments)
  2. coinaday (1630 points, 1210 comments)
  3. atheistftwins (761 points, 562 comments)
  4. KojoSlayer (668 points, 363 comments)
  5. americanpegasus (560 points, 318 comments)
  6. Simcom (555 points, 374 comments)
  7. tipnyan (409 points, 293 comments)
  8. Phecalfeliac (364 points, 249 comments)
  9. braxx1980 (304 points, 222 comments)
  10. vmp32k (292 points, 159 comments)
  11. sillyputti (281 points, 225 comments)
  12. nyancoin (263 points, 208 comments)
  13. Codge1 (242 points, 149 comments)
  14. shibeseller (232 points, 147 comments)
  15. jwflame (230 points, 115 comments)
  16. OnwardFlying (206 points, 168 comments)
  17. The_Somnambulist (205 points, 155 comments)
  18. xpliset (200 points, 162 comments)
  19. Jybrael (195 points, 121 comments)
  20. The-Bent (189 points, 97 comments)
  21. spydud22 (184 points, 96 comments)
  22. Lufah (171 points, 98 comments)
  23. shinohai_ (166 points, 86 comments)
  24. slasherzx (162 points, 101 comments)
  25. jwinterm (152 points, 89 comments)
  26. snarklasers (148 points, 64 comments)
  27. dhj0001 (133 points, 88 comments)
  28. IntelligentComment (129 points, 93 comments)
  29. Rupluttaja (128 points, 77 comments)
  30. jeredye (122 points, 88 comments)
  31. bendover340 (103 points, 57 comments)
  32. ginger_beer_m (101 points, 72 comments)
  33. UrsaMajorisAlpha (100 points, 73 comments)
  34. EdenSB (95 points, 73 comments)
  35. Exohain (95 points, 59 comments)
  36. valcarni (90 points, 63 comments)
  37. nyanstu (83 points, 65 comments)
  38. procrypt (79 points, 60 comments)
  39. lzr1900 (72 points, 51 comments)
  40. CartmanSPC (71 points, 35 comments)
  41. feyerbrand (70 points, 63 comments)
  42. Snargosoft (69 points, 54 comments)
  43. Larry1123 (66 points, 53 comments)
  44. Dogexecutive (59 points, 32 comments)
  45. MAURO_italy (58 points, 50 comments)
  46. ProHashing (57 points, 24 comments)
  47. kahbn (55 points, 42 comments)
  48. petert0th (53 points, 47 comments)
  49. bl4ckw00d (51 points, 37 comments)
  50. Palladi (51 points, 35 comments)
  51. thorygg (51 points, 35 comments)
  52. RunNyanRun (50 points, 21 comments)
  53. JiveTonto (49 points, 22 comments)
  54. bonoboner (48 points, 30 comments)
  55. FwuffyKittens (46 points, 36 comments)
  56. EricPach (46 points, 34 comments)
  57. SyntheticDarkness (46 points, 34 comments)
  58. iMadeATpyo (46 points, 21 comments)
  59. dbcmaster (45 points, 37 comments)
  60. peanut83 (45 points, 32 comments)
  61. Emm_mm3 (44 points, 35 comments)
  62. scirocco (44 points, 30 comments)
  63. JamesArbuthnotPooley (43 points, 28 comments)
  64. catathon (42 points, 28 comments)

Top Submissions

  1. Hi, I am nyantip. I need karma to function. Upvote me and post something interesting in this thread to be tipped Nyancoin. by nyantip (104 points, 170 comments)
  2. This is nyantip again. Do I need to submit a link to get karma? As usual, upvote me and post for a tip! by nyantip (59 points, 99 comments)
  3. NYANCOIN FIRST OFFICIAL REDDIT GIVEAWAY - 33.7 nyancoins for the first 337 comments! by nyancoin (43 points, 744 comments)
  4. I'm a graphic designer new to nyancoin/reddit and wanted to help out. Hope you like it! by kiyami (39 points, 35 comments)
  5. Hello fellow space-cats! I am the nyantipbot. I'm nothing more than a dream at this point, but you can help make me real! Details inside... by nyantipbot (37 points, 38 comments)
  6. Fellow kitty-tats: We are making friends over at /dogemarket! They like us, and we should support them in kind! by americanpegasus (31 points, 20 comments)
  7. Have you kats seen this!!? We just got mentioned in a Wired article above even Dogecoin! Wow! by americanpegasus (30 points, 12 comments)
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How to calculate BTC contract profitability

Now that we're caught up on payments, I'll post this. You're probably not going to be very happy when you see this, unless you have some BIG btc contracts.
I got into a couple arguments about this, but I'll walk you through how I calculated profitability for mining contracts. To be clear, most levels of BTC contracts WILL NOT see a profit. Sm/Med BTC contracts WON'T be profitable. I'll show that and a contract that theoretically could be profitable. These are just projections, actual returns will vary depending on a ton of factors. This is intended as a guide to make sure people don't waste money on contracts that are bad. If this saves you money
First, if you're using anything other than https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator then you probably aren't factoring in a rise in difficulty. That is a BIG mistake if not. If you look at it historically, there is an average increase of 5.69% difficulty per period. It has been closer to 8% in the last few months and there's a lot of talk of more computers coming online. So, difficulty is likely to continue to rise. I would suggest using something around 8-10% for this value so you aren't caught off guard by continued and accelerated difficulty growth.
So, go to the btc wisdom link. Change Display Currency to BTC. Input these values:
Mining Settings: Difficulty Increment: 8% (it will probably be higher) Electricity Price: 0.116667 kw/h (0.00028 fee * Watts / 24 = .116667 /hour ) Pool Fee: 0% (You aren't part of a pool)
Hardware Info: Hashrate: 38 TH/s (I suggest switching the units to the easiest for you) Hardware Price: 1.718BTC (4940 USD atm, but I suggest working in BTC. see further explanation*) Watts: 1000 (this makes the fee calculations work with your Hashrate)
Results: At an 8% average difficulty increase, the 38TH/s level and below, the contracts DO NOT BREAKEVEN BEFORE the difficulty rise reduces your return to less than the fees.
However, at 6% difficulty increase...this is a profitable contract. Your contract will break even right around a year and 6% ROI by the end of the contract (not terrible, but probably not worth the risk). Your 1.718BTC is now 1.821 after 608 days. Anything smaller than this is unlikely to return a profit.
You can play around w/ the contracts, but if difficulty stays around 8% (which it has for the last few months) ONLY the 200TH/s contract is profitable. It will return about 4% by day 704 when the returns are smaller than the fees. It is likely this could have a higher return.
TL;DR: Buy the 38TH/s btc contract if you're willing to take a big risk. Buy the 200TH/s btc contract if you're looking for the best chance to return a profit. Anything less than the 38TH/s contract probably WON'T return a profit, unless difficulty stops increasing.
Shameless Whoring for Coins: If this made you change your mind and purchase a bigger contract or purchase a different coin contract here's my code: qBnm0V Thanks.
Use btc instead of USD, otherwise, if the value of btc goes up, you will think you broke even but actually have less btc than when you started. The goal should be to make earnings on your btc, not in USD otherwise you should invest in something different. *Other note is that no site factors in a changing value of USD/BTC. This will affect the profitability as the value of btc goes up, the fee will be a smaller and smaller part of the earnings. ***Hope this doesn't get deleted, but I'll follow up with other coins.
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A few thoughts - Sunday, June 15, 2014

Good morning! I'm not writing that much this weekend because, if things go well, our pool will reach feature-completion at the end of the day. I'll announce to see if anyone is interested in joining during a proof-of-interest and testing phase in a few weeks.

Brilliant PR

Petamine recently left GHash.io and moved their miners to P2Pool, which is a brilliant PR move. I need to write down that whenever there is a villian, there is a way to make yourself look like the hero. In this case, they are probably raking in more customers in the past 24 hours than they did in the entire month before that.
What's interesting, however, is that what is happening is simply that people are creating pools on P2Pool. This is a stopgap measure, because the P2Pool difficulty rises along with the bitcoin difficulty. In a year, finding a P2Pool share will be as difficult as finding a bitcoin block is today, so we could end up with a pool dominating the P2Pool network.

GHash.io controversy is blowing over

The GHash.io controversy is blowing over. As you can see, GHash.io's hashrate is declining, and people are changing pools. Note that the pool never conducted any attack and that it is disputable that it even reached 50% at all.
People who were panic selling don't recall that this has happened at least twice before that I can recall, with both the BTC Guild and GHash.io. Unless "it's different this time," the same thing is generally going to happen. And there really isn't anything that was different this time, except that a long squeeze coincided with the controversy.

This was a long squeeze

What happened to the price over the past few days was a long squeeze. I'm not convinced there was anything more complicated to it than that. It's easy to place blame for the price fall on any of the events that happened over the past few days, but those events had only a minor impact.
What I think happened is that, on Tuesday or Wednesday, people in the know found out about this impending sale and started getting out. The price started moving downward for an unexplained reason, and so smart people figured out that there was something they didn't know and sold too. When the sale was announced, a few more people sold, and that triggered margin calls, crashing all the way down until most of the people who were 2.5:1 or greater were wiped out. The GHash.io controvery didn't come to a head until after all the people trading on margin had been destroyed already.
If you agree with me, then a long squeeze is certainly not a reason for panic and worry, because it doesn't affect any of the bitcoin fundamentals.

There are people on the other side of the screen

There are several people who were sending me messages and making posts in various places trying to get my attention yesterday. While I welcome criticism, the discussion at /bitcoinmarkets yesterday was deplorable. There are real people on the other side of the screen. I'd like to see some of those people walk up to me or the other people they were railing against and say the sort of things they were saying to someone's face. If they acted the way they did in a restaurant or a public venue, they would have been thrown out.
I will not respond to people who use profanity and personal attacks against me or others. That is not acceptable behavior, and I will not respect people who have no respect for others. I permanently ignored three people who did engage in such attacks yesterday.
I also need to state that you cannot have a civil discussion unless everyone is correctly representing the viewpoints of the people they are discussing. I clearly said that I do not believe in debt, even for houses, which is probably a controversial opinion itself. People who are stating that I suggested buying on margin are lying. Others are lying that I said that this bubble has somehow aborted or ended. Finally, I made it clear that I spent what was at the time about 2% of my wealth on bitcoins, and that I now have about 6% of net worth as bitcoins (it would be about 12% but the stock market has risen so significantly). People are lying that I have huge amounts of money in bitcoins.
Finally, and this confuses me the most, people are spreading a particularly strange lie that I told them to buy bitcoins when they were worth $680. I made clear many times that I put in a lot of money at the low of $440, I repeatedly said that I had a lot of money in the bank ready to invest at the time, and I have not held any bitcoins I bought since then because I have reached my maximum exposure and do not ever plan to hold any more.
Instead of lying, read what I have to say carefully and don't infer things that are not stated in the posts.

This bubble will continue

The next two weeks are going to be interesting. At some point, the price is going to begin to rise in anticipation of this auction. I like the predictions that the higher prices fetched for the auction bitcoins is going to start what moral_agent would refer to as the last phase of this cycle.
This makes sense in terms of psychology. If a particularly high number comes out of the auction process, and I believe it will for the reasons I stated yesterday, then people will be shocked that Wall Street believes that bitcoins are worth so much. The price will probably rise above what Wall St pays for the bitcoins at auction as people realize that if Wall St is willing to pay 25/50/whatever percent greater than market value, then bitcoins must be worth far more.

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Hi Digitalcoin enthusiast, and welcome to the second edition of this bi-weekly news digest!
Some of you doubted that two weeks was long enough for anything of significance to happen in the Digitalcoin world. I hope that this news digest will prove you wrong ;)
In this issue, we're talking about important movements on the exchange front: some have fallen, many are rising. Fortunately, amidst all these changes, the overall availability of Digitalcoin is increasing. A constant and important factor in the downfall of exchanges seems to be security. Are your coins safe? Have you ever considered using a paper wallet?
Other important news that we'll be covering: a new version of the core Digitalcoin software, a major website overhaul, and the introduction of a stable Android wallet.
Happy Friday everyone!
Yours truly,
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Content Writing and Copywriting

A long post I wrote about the differences between content, writing, and copywriting. Hopefully it will resonate with some of you other writers out there. I hope this is the correct place to put this, as I'm a bit new here. Thanks!
Understanding Writing
Earn more with your writing by learning how to effectively show clients some of the not so obvious differences between content, writing, and copywriting.
In most cases, a writer is to a copywriter what a house painter is to an artist. That’s not to say that you’ll never find a house painter making art, but rather that you’re far more likely to find an artist willing to paint houses. This is because, while both of them can paint, only a copywriter is generally capable of creating art.
Unfortunately, because writing is the second most common form of communication in the world, chances are that nearly everyone you interact with will be able to do it. This makes it a trivial skill in the eyes of most people, along the likes of breathing, or walking. Of course, put any of those people under water or on a tightrope, and they instantly find new appreciation for the difficulties breathing and walking can present.
Sadly, drowning clients or forcing them work in the circus isn’t likely to earn repeat business, however satisfying it might be at the time. Forgoing those option can make it difficult to effectively demonstrate the differences between simple writing and the complexities of copywriting. This is particularly true if you’re not dealing with an experienced marketing firm, or a knowledgeable client. That said, there are steps you can take to make yourself and your writing shine. It just involves a little panache.
Explaining The Difference in 15 Minutes
If you’re serious about your clients, take them out to lunch. You’ve got nothing to lose, and everything to gain. That’s because there’s nothing better than a menu and a hungry client to effectively demonstrate the difference between generic content, professional writing, and copywriting. It also lets you explain how and why they all work together, and more importantly, when they don’t.
I recommend either a steak house or a sushi bar, but depending on the client, you might want to go with something else. The important thing is to make sure that food is available that you can apply a copywriting description to. Having more than one client at the table also helps but isn’t necessary.
For this exercise, you’re going to explain the food as if you were the waiter. Then it’s just a matter of drawing the comparison between your client’s needs and their order – all before their lunch arrives. Because they’re hungry, and you’re describing their food in great detail, they’ll positively associate you with the food rush – especially if you’re good at selling yourself. Just make sure the establishment you select is on par with your skills as a writer. If you’re in DC, I recommend The Old Ebbitt, or Ruth’s Chris Steak House, but anything similarly upper crust will do.
The Selling Points
Just pick whatever steak the client ordered, and offer them three explanations, comparing each one to a particular type of writing. You should have pen and paper, and be good enough to bang this out at the table, or you’ve lost the client.
Your associated price points should account for the time involved in each. A few minutes for content, which equates to the value menu at McDonald’s, a little longer and more expensive for writing, which isn’t unlike Red Lobster, and then the icing on the cake for the restaurant you’ve chosen. Price points should look a little like this:
What we’ve done there is give a common, real world example to the difference between each writing style, pairing it with a price point, and the associated results. In this case, the result is a hungry client, hopefully hooked on your tempting description of the steak they ordered. Don’t forget to point out that copywriting is much more than just ‘per word’ content, and that the $0.20 per word rate is a ground floor. Good copywriting can run upwards of $1000 per page or more – make sure your client understands this, or you’ll be selling yourself and your talents short.
Then you can go on to describe another menu dish, such as chicken, in the same tantalizing manner, and lead into co-branding, where you establish several different products under a single brand, expanding your trust pool. With a little practice, you’ll have outstanding success rates at closing new business.
If you’re having difficulty, just schedule your meetings before lunch at your client’s place of business, bring a menu, and use the same pitch. Just be prepared to buy them lunch and come clean on the marketing aspect of your pitch. Few things are worse than a hungry and irritable person trapped in a cubicle. If you’re visiting someone in a corner office, then you probably don’t need my advice.
Marketing Yourself
For some, getting to this point will take time. Most copywriters are notoriously bad at meeting people, and even worse at closing cold calls or first round meetings. That’s not to say it’s impossible, but rather that it takes work. There is also a level of trust and understanding that needs to be built between client and writer. That can also take time.
It’s helpful to take things one step at a time, introducing yourself and services, and demonstrating how what you do will add value to an organization. Treat it like a romance at first. Do a little extra, be polite, and don’t mention things like your early adoption of Bitcoins, or your part time free gambling habit.
These four steps are far from the final word on how to go about marketing yourself, but they’re a good start.
Step One: Build Relationships
Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with inexperienced marketing firms, they just take a little more effort to work with. Likewise, some of the best clients are also the least knowledgeable about the differences in copywriting and writing. This is because capable firms and individuals are usually very focused on what they do, and therefore quite good at it. This is often the reason why they’re not good at writing. Taking the time to work with them usually results in lasting and mutually beneficial relationships.
Step Two: Demonstrate Results
One of the easiest ways to do this is by demonstrating the strengths of both copywriting and writing, as opposed to just focusing on one. By showing how copywriting can build brand, and writing can reinforce that brand, you’re showing how your work will build value. More importantly, help establish brand. Clear, concise, and direct communication is the ticket to accomplishing this and winning the business.
Step Three: Don’t Be An Artist
True, this article opened up comparing copywriting to art, and it is, but professionals rarely want artists. Let’s face it. Artists are unreliable. They’ve been known to cut off their ears, and in extreme cases, drown clients or force them into the circus. No one wants to hear about your art, and the person paying for it also doesn’t care about it either. They just want results, which loosely translated means profit.
Step Four: Be Professional, But Be Yourself Too
At all times, be professional. If your client invites you out for a drink, then have one. Note the emphasis on having one. Don’t press your client into accepting favors, or at all make them feel manipulated. You’re buying their time for a meeting, just like they’re buying your time for copywriting. Keep it professional and honest. Clients worth maintaining relationships with will appreciate this.
As an example, I once interviewed with Latham & Watkins for a low level writing position. I was between jobs, and could have used the work. When it was all said and done, I was told that I was overqualified. The partner who came down to give me the particulars asked if I’d like a drink, and having nothing to lose, I said, “Since we’re all being honest, and it’s late, is a rum and coke out of the question?”
Everyone had a good laugh, we had drinks, and then the attorney who conducted the interview took me out for a few more drinks. We got along famously, and are friends to this day. I didn’t end up working for them, but it was a springboard into other relationships.
So, be professional, and be yourself. Nothing sells copywriting to a client you understand like honesty and sincerity. You never know where opportunity will take you from there.
And You’re Off
On that note, you’ve got a basic set of tools to market yourself, and can build them into your website or other copywriting platform, enabling you to build a better portfolio, and ultimately better clients. The original article appears here - https://hjbuell.com/content-writing-copywriting/
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Content, Writing, and Copyrwiting - Knowing the differences and how to sell them.

** repost at the suggestion of comments: from http://www.reddit.com/writing/comments/1z3exz/content_writing_and_copywriting/
A long post I wrote about the differences between content, writing, and copywriting. Hopefully it will resonate with some of you other writers out there. I hope this is the correct place to put this, as I'm a bit new here. Thanks!
Understanding Writing
Earn more with your writing by learning how to effectively show clients some of the not so obvious differences between content, writing, and copywriting.
In most cases, a writer is to a copywriter what a house painter is to an artist. That’s not to say that you’ll never find a house painter making art, but rather that you’re far more likely to find an artist willing to paint houses. This is because, while both of them can paint, only a copywriter is generally capable of creating art.
Unfortunately, because writing is the second most common form of communication in the world, chances are that nearly everyone you interact with will be able to do it. This makes it a trivial skill in the eyes of most people, along the likes of breathing, or walking. Of course, put any of those people under water or on a tightrope, and they instantly find new appreciation for the difficulties breathing and walking can present.
Sadly, drowning clients or forcing them work in the circus isn’t likely to earn repeat business, however satisfying it might be at the time. Forgoing those option can make it difficult to effectively demonstrate the differences between simple writing and the complexities of copywriting. This is particularly true if you’re not dealing with an experienced marketing firm, or a knowledgeable client. That said, there are steps you can take to make yourself and your writing shine. It just involves a little panache.
Explaining The Difference in 15 Minutes
If you’re serious about your clients, take them out to lunch. You’ve got nothing to lose, and everything to gain. That’s because there’s nothing better than a menu and a hungry client to effectively demonstrate the difference between generic content, professional writing, and copywriting. It also lets you explain how and why they all work together, and more importantly, when they don’t.
I recommend either a steak house or a sushi bar, but depending on the client, you might want to go with something else. The important thing is to make sure that food is available that you can apply a copywriting description to. Having more than one client at the table also helps but isn’t necessary.
For this exercise, you’re going to explain the food as if you were the waiter. Then it’s just a matter of drawing the comparison between your client’s needs and their order – all before their lunch arrives. Because they’re hungry, and you’re describing their food in great detail, they’ll positively associate you with the food rush – especially if you’re good at selling yourself. Just make sure the establishment you select is on par with your skills as a writer. If you’re in DC, I recommend The Old Ebbitt, or Ruth’s Chris Steak House, but anything similarly upper crust will do.
The Selling Points
Just pick whatever steak the client ordered, and offer them three explanations, comparing each one to a particular type of writing. You should have pen and paper, and be good enough to bang this out at the table, or you’ve lost the client.
Your associated price points should account for the time involved in each. A few minutes for content, which equates to the value menu at McDonald’s, a little longer and more expensive for writing, which isn’t unlike Red Lobster, and then the icing on the cake for the restaurant you’ve chosen. Price points should look a little like this:
What we’ve done there is give a common, real world example to the difference between each writing style, pairing it with a price point, and the associated results. In this case, the result is a hungry client, hopefully hooked on your tempting description of the steak they ordered. Don’t forget to point out that copywriting is much more than just ‘per word’ content, and that the $0.20 per word rate is a ground floor. Good copywriting can run upwards of $1000 per page or more – make sure your client understands this, or you’ll be selling yourself and your talents short.
Then you can go on to describe another menu dish, such as chicken, in the same tantalizing manner, and lead into co-branding, where you establish several different products under a single brand, expanding your trust pool. With a little practice, you’ll have outstanding success rates at closing new business.
If you’re having difficulty, just schedule your meetings before lunch at your client’s place of business, bring a menu, and use the same pitch. Just be prepared to buy them lunch and come clean on the marketing aspect of your pitch. Few things are worse than a hungry and irritable person trapped in a cubicle. If you’re visiting someone in a corner office, then you probably don’t need my advice.
Marketing Yourself
For some, getting to this point will take time. Most copywriters are notoriously bad at meeting people, and even worse at closing cold calls or first round meetings. That’s not to say it’s impossible, but rather that it takes work. There is also a level of trust and understanding that needs to be built between client and writer. That can also take time.
It’s helpful to take things one step at a time, introducing yourself and services, and demonstrating how what you do will add value to an organization. Treat it like a romance at first. Do a little extra, be polite, and don’t mention things like your early adoption of Bitcoins, or your part time free gambling habit.
These four steps are far from the final word on how to go about marketing yourself, but they’re a good start.
Step One: Build Relationships
Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with inexperienced marketing firms, they just take a little more effort to work with. Likewise, some of the best clients are also the least knowledgeable about the differences in copywriting and writing. This is because capable firms and individuals are usually very focused on what they do, and therefore quite good at it. This is often the reason why they’re not good at writing. Taking the time to work with them usually results in lasting and mutually beneficial relationships.
Step Two: Demonstrate Results
One of the easiest ways to do this is by demonstrating the strengths of both copywriting and writing, as opposed to just focusing on one. By showing how copywriting can build brand, and writing can reinforce that brand, you’re showing how your work will build value. More importantly, help establish brand. Clear, concise, and direct communication is the ticket to accomplishing this and winning the business.
Step Three: Don’t Be An Artist
True, this article opened up comparing copywriting to art, and it is, but professionals rarely want artists. Let’s face it. Artists are unreliable. They’ve been known to cut off their ears, and in extreme cases, drown clients or force them into the circus. No one wants to hear about your art, and the person paying for it also doesn’t care about it either. They just want results, which loosely translated means profit.
Step Four: Be Professional, But Be Yourself Too
At all times, be professional. If your client invites you out for a drink, then have one. Note the emphasis on having one. Don’t press your client into accepting favors, or at all make them feel manipulated. You’re buying their time for a meeting, just like they’re buying your time for copywriting. Keep it professional and honest. Clients worth maintaining relationships with will appreciate this.
As an example, I once interviewed with Latham & Watkins for a low level writing position. I was between jobs, and could have used the work. When it was all said and done, I was told that I was overqualified. The partner who came down to give me the particulars asked if I’d like a drink, and having nothing to lose, I said, “Since we’re all being honest, and it’s late, is a rum and coke out of the question?”
Everyone had a good laugh, we had drinks, and then the attorney who conducted the interview took me out for a few more drinks. We got along famously, and are friends to this day. I didn’t end up working for them, but it was a springboard into other relationships.
So, be professional, and be yourself. Nothing sells copywriting to a client you understand like honesty and sincerity. You never know where opportunity will take you from there.
And You’re Off
On that note, you’ve got a basic set of tools to market yourself, and can build them into your website or other copywriting platform, enabling you to build a better portfolio, and ultimately better clients. The original article appears here - https://hjbuell.com/content-writing-copywriting/
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